Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:36:45 +0100
To: Benjamin Monate <monate at lix.polytechnique.fr>
Cc: Sven Luther <luther at dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr>,
        Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp>, lablgtk@kaba.or.jp
Subject: Re: New snapshot available
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From: Sven Luther <luther at dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr>

On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 11:05:17AM +0100, Benjamin Monate wrote:
> Sven Luther wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 11:48:18AM +0900, Jacques Garrigue wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>From: Benjamin Monate <benjamin.monate@lix.polytechnique.fr>
> >>   
> >>
> >>>Yes. lablgtk2 main target is Gtk 2.2.
> >>>But it should compile with Gtk 2.x , x < 2.
> >>>Application developped for Gtk 2.2 will compile with
> >>>Gtk 2.x but they may fail with Failure "Unsupported feature in Gtk 2.x < 
> >>>2.2" exceptions.
> >>>     
> >>>
> >>I've fixed ml_gdk.c a bit better, so that you can still get screen
> >>size with gtk-2.0.
> >>
> >>But compatibility is indeed a problem.
> >>I'm wondering whether gtk-2.0 is a worthy target: this kind of problem
> >>is cropping-up all around, and there is no support in gtk-2.2 to
> >>produce gtk-2.0 compatible programs.
> >>
> >>How do people value gtk-2.0 compatibility?
> >>For personal use, I would suggest to upgrade to 2.2 anyway, but I know
> >>that some people intend to distribute software to non-experts, and I
> >>have no idea for how long 2.0 will still be around.
> >>   
> >>
> 
> Upgrading is not possible for many people.

Why ?

> I suggest that we keep to support modified and new features of Gtk2.2  and
> fail with exceptions with old Gtk 2.
> This is not so much work.
> When all stable distros will embed Gtk2.2 we may forget Gtk2.0 but not 
> before.
> At this time debian stable does not have Gtk2.2 packages.

Sure, but debian stable has gnome 1.4 and most people will be having the
gtk+ 1.2 installed only. And there are woody backports of both gtk/gnome2.2
and ocaml 3.06 available.

Anyway, if you cannot upgrade, most probably you also cannot be running
alpha software on such a box, so i would stay with lablgtk 1.2.5 on such
a box, and use lablgtk2 with more uptodate boxes.

But anyway, i don't really care, if you want to do the work of
supporting both, just go ahead, i personnaly don't think it is worth it,
since gtk 2.2 is a drop-in replacement for gtk 2.0, but it is just my
opinion.

Friendly,

Sven Luther