Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:15:01 -0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Romildo_Malaquias?= <romildo at uber.com.br>
To: Tony Gale <gale at gtk.org>
Cc: Ian Main <imain at gtk.org>, Jos? Romildo Malaquias <romildo at uber.com.br>,
        gtk-list@gnome.org, lablgtk@kaba.or.jp
Subject: Re: Using excerpts from the GTK+ Tutorial in a LablGTK tutorial?
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In-Reply-To: <1006337156.18888.1.camel at syntax.dstl.gov.uk>; from gale at gtk.org on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:05:56AM +0000

On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:05:56AM +0000, Tony Gale wrote:
> I think the license is pretty clear. If you use large chunks of the
> tutorial then you just need to maintain a copy of the license with it.
> Otherwise just go ahead and use bits of it how you wish.

The use exceperts from the GTK tutorial would be to avoid
having to rewrite all widget descriptions. The idea behind
each widget and the workings of an event based GUI library
in general does not depend on the language too much. So
I was thinking about putting effort in explaining how to
program with LablGTK without having to write from the
beginning the widgets general descriptions.

So am thinking about using "bits" of the GTK tutorial.
It would not result in an adapted version of the GTK
tutorial for use with Objective Caml. The result
would be a document with a different strucutre from
the GTK tutorial. The "bits" taken from the GTK tutorial
would even be reworded or rephrased.

> You can take that as an official statement.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -tony

Therefore as I understand Tony and Ian words, I can go
ahead and do it without keeping a copy of the license.
Certainly credits will be giving to them, though.

> On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 08:57, Ian Main wrote:
> > I personally have no problem at all with it.  I think there may be
> >  a license .. ah yes:
> > 
> > http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/ch-copyright.html
> > 
> > If this isn't liberal enough, lemme know.  Though I don't know what Tony
> > will have to say on it.  As far as my interests are concerned, you can
> > do anything you want with it.
> > 
> > 	Ian
> > 
> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 06:28:59AM -0200, Jos? Romildo Malaquias wrote:
> > > Hello.
> > > 
> > > I am willing to write a tutorial for programming GTK+ applications
> > > in LablGTK:
> > > 
> > > 	http://wwwfun.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/soft/olabl/lablgtk.html
> > > 
> > > a GTK+ bindings for the Objective Caml language
> > > 
> > > 	http://caml.inria.fr/
> > > 
> > > Currently there is no documentation for programming with LablGTK.
> > > 
> > > But I am not an expert with GTK+, but I am still learning it.
> > > So I am willing to document what I am learning.
> > > 
> > > I am considering taking some wordings from the GTK+ tutorial
> > > 
> > > 	http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/
> > > 
> > > to include in my tutorial for things that are already well described
> > > and is not language specific, and adapt it to use with the Objective
> > > Caml language and LablGTK.
> > > 
> > > I would like to hear what the authors of the GTK+ tutorial (and the
> > > comunity) think about that. The printed version of the tutorial I have
> > > in hands does not have any copyright notice.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Romildo
> > > -- 
> > > Prof. José Romildo Malaquias               Departamento de Computação
> > > http://iceb.ufop.br/~romildo       Universidade Federal de Ouro Preto
> > > romildo@iceb.ufop.br                                           Brasil
> > > romildo@uber.com.br

Best regards,

Romildo
-- 
Prof. José Romildo Malaquias               Departamento de Computação
http://iceb.ufop.br/~romildo       Universidade Federal de Ouro Preto
romildo@iceb.ufop.br                                           Brasil
romildo@uber.com.br